Comments on: No Child Left Behind Doomed To Fail? http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/ Providing HOPE for educators since 2007 Wed, 13 Apr 2011 17:59:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Joelhttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2218 Joel Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:00:38 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2218 <a href='#comment-2215' rel="nofollow">@Stephanie</a> - Educational reform sounds good. So where does that educational reform begin? I am rather unorthodox in how I see things a lot of the time (could you guess that already?) and I am just sick of new programs that start up and never are allowed to run their course. It's like a new study comes out saying this technique or method works well. The district will jump on board. Then another study comes out a year later saying something somewhat similar and yet somewhat different. Too many districts are too quick to jump ship and follow after the new program. I have come to learn in the music world that rebuilding a high school music program takes at a minimum 4 years before the results of the hard work begin to be fully seen. It takes somewhere around 5-8 years before the program can be turned around completely -- even by the most expert directors. Educational reform tends to go the same way. If we want to fix our district's low scores from the LEP students, we need to choose our course, and commit to it for a few years and see what the results end up being. @Stephanie – Educational reform sounds good. So where does that educational reform begin? I am rather unorthodox in how I see things a lot of the time (could you guess that already?) and I am just sick of new programs that start up and never are allowed to run their course.

It’s like a new study comes out saying this technique or method works well. The district will jump on board. Then another study comes out a year later saying something somewhat similar and yet somewhat different. Too many districts are too quick to jump ship and follow after the new program.

I have come to learn in the music world that rebuilding a high school music program takes at a minimum 4 years before the results of the hard work begin to be fully seen. It takes somewhere around 5-8 years before the program can be turned around completely — even by the most expert directors.

Educational reform tends to go the same way. If we want to fix our district’s low scores from the LEP students, we need to choose our course, and commit to it for a few years and see what the results end up being.

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]]> By: Stephaniehttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2215 Stephanie Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:25:59 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2215 As a college student in education we are always having NCLB drilled into our brains, but the truth is children are left behind. I do agree that NCLB grades the teachers and administrators. What I believe needs to happen is educational reform, where we take what studies suggest and put them into action. As a college student in education we are always having NCLB drilled into our brains, but the truth is children are left behind. I do agree that NCLB grades the teachers and administrators. What I believe needs to happen is educational reform, where we take what studies suggest and put them into action.

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]]> By: Joelhttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2198 Joel Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:19:10 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2198 <a href='#comment-2179' rel="nofollow">@Mystery Teacher</a> - I agree absolutely. The problem is that whenever governments try to legislate things, it simply bogs them down rather than propelling them forward. Involved parents are the single largest difference between most "good students" and "bad students." @Mystery Teacher – I agree absolutely. The problem is that whenever governments try to legislate things, it simply bogs them down rather than propelling them forward. Involved parents are the single largest difference between most “good students” and “bad students.”

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]]> By: Mystery Teacherhttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2179 Mystery Teacher Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:55:34 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2179 Are they kidding? Children ARE being left behind every single day! No matter how hard teachers work, there are some students and their parents who just don't care. I think parents need to be highly involved in the equation. They need to be held responsible for attendance, attitudes, and homework. I am tired of the lack of support we get from parents. We do get a lot of blame when the child doesn't achieve though. I have had parents who claimed their child did fantastic in a different school and when their records came it was a lie. They had the same problems including lack of parental support. If we don't get the parents involved in the children's education again, we will never have a successful school system. The reason Charter schools in Arizona are so good is because they require parents to volunteer so many hours a month. Lots of parent involvement. Lots of parent donations. Lots of parents caring what happens in their children's lives. In public school, the parents often just think that the school should be totally responsible for the children. I have been yelled at by parents because I gave homework. They should do all their work at school. It isn't the parents job to teach. Holy Cow! I think every parent needs to come to school at least once a month to see their child in action and watch their children's teachers. Now, THAT would make a difference. Are they kidding? Children ARE being left behind every single day! No matter how hard teachers work, there are some students and their parents who just don’t care. I think parents need to be highly involved in the equation. They need to be held responsible for attendance, attitudes, and homework. I am tired of the lack of support we get from parents. We do get a lot of blame when the child doesn’t achieve though. I have had parents who claimed their child did fantastic in a different school and when their records came it was a lie. They had the same problems including lack of parental support. If we don’t get the parents involved in the children’s education again, we will never have a successful school system. The reason Charter schools in Arizona are so good is because they require parents to volunteer so many hours a month. Lots of parent involvement. Lots of parent donations. Lots of parents caring what happens in their children’s lives. In public school, the parents often just think that the school should be totally responsible for the children. I have been yelled at by parents because I gave homework. They should do all their work at school. It isn’t the parents job to teach. Holy Cow! I think every parent needs to come to school at least once a month to see their child in action and watch their children’s teachers. Now, THAT would make a difference.

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]]> By: Joelhttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2176 Joel Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:26:58 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2176 Not at all. I am glad to see an article in a mainstream news source that doesn't completely jump on the anti-NCLB bandwagon. Not at all. I am glad to see an article in a mainstream news source that doesn’t completely jump on the anti-NCLB bandwagon.

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]]> By: Benjamin Baxterhttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2175 Benjamin Baxter Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:21:56 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2175 I didn't mean it as a slight, just in case it appeared that way. I just thought you'd be interested. I didn’t mean it as a slight, just in case it appeared that way. I just thought you’d be interested.

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]]> By: Joelhttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2174 Joel Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:19:30 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2174 Thanks Benjamin for the great article! I modified the second sentence of the last paragraph from <i>"In its current inception, the public school system is set to implode, but the law itself will stay on the books."</i> to <i>"In its current inception, the public school system in many states seems set to implode, but the law itself will stay on the books."</i> and included the link. Thanks Benjamin for the great article! I modified the second sentence of the last paragraph from “In its current inception, the public school system is set to implode, but the law itself will stay on the books.” to “In its current inception, the public school system in many states seems set to implode, but the law itself will stay on the books.” and included the link.

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]]> By: Benjamin Baxterhttp://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/no-child-left-behind-doomed-to-fail/#comment-2173 Benjamin Baxter Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:05:16 +0000 http://www.soyouwanttoteach.com/?p=455#comment-2173 I'll redirect you to <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/12/washington/12spellings.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss" rel="nofollow">an article from The New York Times</a> which addresses the subject of NCLB. I’ll redirect you to an article from The New York Times which addresses the subject of NCLB.

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