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Thanks to Joel for allowing me this opportunity to post an article on his excellent site!

In my short time as a blogger I have written a few posts which have elicited quite a few e-mails, These include posts about the fish bowl lesson, how teachers may create student failures, and ideas about teaching denotation and connotation. However, my post regarding the need for classroom rules has brought in more e-mails than any other. I actually ran a small in-service at my school for some of the new teachers about why I don’t have classroom rules, and I think a couple were shocked that rules may not be necessary.

This may sound overly simple, but I tell my (high school) students that I only create rules if we need to have them. We only have them in my classes if students can’t respect one another and me.

For me, everything revolves around trust. At the beginning of the semester I work on relationship building since these bonds will make the class more successful over time. Once I establish a rapport and establish a relationship with students, things move along rather swimmingly.

Some teachers in my building wonder why I haven’t really started teaching the course content up to two weeks into the semester (they mean our English readings), but I am teaching. I just use bonding activities and teach the speaking and writing skills first as we get to know each other. By the end of the semester we have usually covered more than the requirements because of the relationships built. I believe in cooperation over competition, and this includes discipline.

I even had the principal walk in and look for my classroom rules. When she couldn’t find them posted, she asked me where they were, and I replied that I don’t have any. She then asked how I maintain order, and I then explained that I teach respect and model it. The kids know I care.

In general, I attempt to deal with behavior issues on a one to one basis. I often use phrasings like “I know you’re better than this” or “I know you aren’t really acting like yourself” or things like that and then may start asking questions about why the student is behaving a certain way, possibly finishing with a technique called the “5 Why Questions.” A typical conversation might go this way:

Me: Why are you here?

Student: Because I have to take this class.

Me: Why do you have to take this class?

Student: ‘Cause it’s required to graduate.

Me: Why do you want to graduate?

Student: ‘Cause I want to get a good job.

Me: Why do you want a good job?

Student: ‘Cause I want to make money.

Me: Why do you want to make money?

Student: ‘Cause I want to buy stuff, and I want and to take care of my family.

Me: That’s your goal. That’s the dream. This class is not what you’re after–it’s the family and money. This is just a step on the way. What happens if you don’t complete this step?

Student: I don’t get to my goal.

Me: That’s your motivation. Close your eyes and picture the dream and think about that while you’re here. You don’t have to like me or the class, but you do want to reach your dream. Let’s do it together. I’m here to help you reach your dream, but I need you to help me, too.

I know it sounds corny, but the kids really buy in. And, it almost always eliminates future behavior problems and sometimes improves my attendance rates. I have not had a student removed from my classes for behavior issues in seven years since I started this type of discussion with kids.

Kids understand dreams.


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GravatarSunday, July 27th, 2008 (9:46am Central)
Stengel99 writes:

Nice post. I agree with your concept of trust. My rules has evolved into Respect for the teacher; Respect for students; Respect for property. In my opinion, most other traditional rules are covered by the concept of respect. I had a pretty wild group of summer school students (not music), and really tried to reinforce respect. I think it worked. Several times during the summer when a few students would get out of control, others would chime in and holler, “Hey! Respect!” The students probably forgot most of the content we discussed, but the word respect would probably come to mind when they remember my class.

GravatarSunday, July 27th, 2008 (12:00pm Central)
DrPezz writes:

Thanks for the comment, Stengel.

I think I’ve found that not even posting rules, yet maintaining an atmosphere of respect, liberates the students. They truly feel like I’m treating them as adults even if we do have to review standards of decorum on rare occasions. Plus, I really think they despise going over classroom rules beginning the semester. I do something very different for the first day of school as well. Maybe I’ll write about it back on my site this week as food for thought for others.

GravatarSunday, July 27th, 2008 (3:22pm Central)
Michigan writes:

I have been running into a lot of things on teacher message boards lately about how the traditional rules, consequences, and rewards system isn’t effective. I am going to be a 3rd year band teacher (2nd year at this middle school), and I had a terrible classroom management/discipline experience last year.

If I don’t do rules, what do I do? Does it all boil down to drilling procedures the first one or two weeks, or is there something more?

GravatarSunday, July 27th, 2008 (4:30pm Central)
John Spencer writes:

I agree with you. I don’t have rules in my class. I don’t have a seating chart, either. Although we have a few set procedures, I believe classroom management should lead toward reaching their goals. I try to be as relational as possible and students have responded well to it so far. It’s easier to have a one-on-one conversation with a student for five minutes and really get to the core of it than to spend five minutes a day making the student angry with writing detention slips.

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GravatarSunday, July 27th, 2008 (9:53pm Central)
Joel writes:

I started out with a lot of rules. Three years ago, I simplified it to two rules:

1) Follow directions
2) Do nothing to interferes with the learning or the teaching in the class

Pretty simple. Two years ago, I simplified it more:

1) Be respectful
2) Be responsible
3) Follow directions

Last year, we didn’t post any rules. We go over procedure obviously at the beginning of the year, but we don’t have any posted rules. If admin asks for something more, you could always put the word RESPECT up on the wall and call that your rule.

Something I did also was to post signs around the band hall that said “Everyone needs an attitude adjustment.” I explain that this concept includes me and goes through to everybody in all of the classes. This may help you out some, Michigan.

The second year in a school is easier than the first. You have a lot of the kids already on your side now (especially last year’s beginners and this year’s). Build on that. As the oldest kids see consistency, they will begin to buy into your program more and more. Let us know how it goes, it should be exciting!

GravatarMonday, July 28th, 2008 (12:05am Central)
Miss Snix writes:

Great post!

GravatarMonday, July 28th, 2008 (8:12am Central)
K writes:

Sounds similar to “Teaching with Love and Logic”.

GravatarMonday, July 28th, 2008 (4:21pm Central)
DrPezz writes:

I’m not sure about names for what I’m doing, but I do firmly believe that relationships are the bedrock upon which all else rests. Whether I’m in my classroom, in the office, or in the community, relationships seem to be the most effective and affecting aspect of getting things done. Building collaborative environments (rather than competitive) make my classroom run smoothly and allow students to progress quickly.

As much as I can, I handle my own behavioral problems one on one with students. I think the kids respect this and want to be a part of things. Laughing at myself does seem to break the ice right away. :)

GravatarTuesday, July 29th, 2008 (5:22pm Central)
Monica writes:

This is a really great read! Your teaching style reminds me of my favorite teacher in high school! I wish all the teachers were that wonderful!

GravatarFriday, August 22nd, 2008 (7:29am Central)
Miss Profe writes:

I’ve been doing some reading by Marvin Marshall re: the very topic about which you post. He echoes many of the same sentiments, such as how we as teachers need to shift our thinking from rules to responsibilities. I agree with this.

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